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by desert_woodworker
Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:42 am
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: confirmation
Replies: 10
Views: 647

Re: confirmation

Thanks, Enver. After awakening, a new phase of practice may be begun, guided by the teacher. This is not to be missed, for those Ch'an/Zen practitioners who may be interested. But such people -- here, and everywhere -- probably already know this. what is that new phase of practice? just wondered A t...
by desert_woodworker
Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:39 am
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: confirmation
Replies: 10
Views: 647

Re: confirmation

Clyde, I agree, the Zen Way requires confirmation of awakening by an accomplished (authorized) Zen teacher. But I haven’t met or read of a Zen teacher who holds the view that only Zen practice leads to awakening or that only awakenings confirmed by a Zen teacher are actual awakening. As I understand...
by desert_woodworker
Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:27 am
Forum: Artwork by Forum Members
Topic: Death Poems
Replies: 38
Views: 2549

Re: Death Poems

Not yet , "death", but in the spirit of Dogen's "Night Words" in the Zendo (say, on sesshin, or sometimes after evening sits), while there's still hope, ;) ...a Haiku, at least in terms of syllable-count, only (and not necessarily according to multiple, established, definitional Haiku rules): The ha...
by desert_woodworker
Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:04 am
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: American Zen - A Brief History
Replies: 32
Views: 1717

Re: American Zen - A Brief History

Clyde, Thanks for considering my comment. No, I didn’t miss “peculiarities” and if this is how you denote forms, then OK. And just as Ch’an and Zen have evolved over time, American Zen, in its multitudinous forms, will not remain static. Static? Sure. But a particularly American Ch'an and Zen have n...
by desert_woodworker
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:43 pm
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: grace
Replies: 39
Views: 1671

Re: grace

hiya Clyde, thanks: You say there “may be” a few who have spontaneous awakenings, but that their awakenings were not confirmed by an accomplished teacher. OK, we agree. I believe awakenings are possible external to Zen and even external to Buddhism (though I think Buddhism and Zen are effective skil...
by desert_woodworker
Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:46 pm
Forum: Beginners Space
Topic: Beginner Question
Replies: 17
Views: 830

Re: Beginner Question

avisitor wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:42 am
Strong practice!
Yes, sirree Bob, Strong practice!

(No baloney)

:namaste:

--Joe
by desert_woodworker
Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:42 pm
Forum: Zen People
Topic: Koun Franz (19?? - not dead yet)
Replies: 3
Views: 348

Re: Koun Franz (19?? - not dead yet)

Cold ash. This takes some work.

But the result is very warming. For oneself and for all beings.

--Joe
by desert_woodworker
Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:17 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Music
Replies: 502
Views: 29049

Re: Music

For fun (he'd like that):

Here's a fellow (1926-1997) who has a bit to sing about the Four No-ble Truths: No Bull.

by desert_woodworker
Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:33 pm
Forum: Beginners Space
Topic: The practice of Zazen
Replies: 11
Views: 523

Re: The practice of Zazen

What's that about zazen?

Just practice correct zazen.

--Joe
by desert_woodworker
Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:31 pm
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: American Zen - A Brief History
Replies: 32
Views: 1717

Re: American Zen - A Brief History

Clyde, Of course there isn’t an American “no-mind”. But there is, according to many American Zen teachers, a distinct American form of Zen practice. Did you miss it? This is what I mean, above, by "peculiarities". This is certainly not a distinct "form", but a form or forms which are hoping to conve...
by desert_woodworker
Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:23 pm
Forum: Beginners Space
Topic: Trying to live a right life
Replies: 67
Views: 3716

Re: Trying to live a right life

You got? You give.
by desert_woodworker
Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:22 pm
Forum: Beginners Space
Topic: Trying to live a right life
Replies: 67
Views: 3716

Re: Trying to live a right life

I still give away $2 bills. They're so unusual that some recipients glare at them a few moments: Real? Fake? Counterfeit? Play-Money? ;-) Just give. All's swell, --Joe Just give? Then does it become something that is just another form of reaction?? Nothing there to be mindful of? Just going through...
by desert_woodworker
Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:03 pm
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: grace
Replies: 39
Views: 1671

Re: grace

Clyde, And while I practice and encourage others to practice, there are people who have awakened spontaneously; i.e., without any practice. Though they may be FEW -- very few -- their un-practiced putative awakening has thus probably not been confirmed by an accomplished teacher, which, in the Ch'an...
by desert_woodworker
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:26 pm
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: grace
Replies: 39
Views: 1671

Re: grace

Clyde, I was reading a classic book on Tibetan Buddhism and read the following description of the “direct path”, that liberation is “without any apparent preparation.” That quote may be misleading you, Clyde. I think that what's meant is that awakening is not practiced-for. In other words, one does ...
by desert_woodworker
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:13 am
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: The Second Fruit
Replies: 15
Views: 1199

Re: The Second Fruit

Your teacher can tell you what's what.

No teacher?

Ok, then you already know (ouch!).

See what Nonin Roshi used to say hereabouts (at ZFI). He was a straight-shooter; now retired as Abbot, and from teaching (I think). But, still teaching us... .

:namaste:

--Joe
by desert_woodworker
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:08 am
Forum: Zen Events
Topic: Upcoming talk in NYC: "Chan, Freedom, and Relationships"
Replies: 1
Views: 284

Re: Upcoming talk in NYC: "Chan, Freedom, and Relationships"

Go do a great job, Guo Gu. In my adopted home-town.

Miss you.

Hope all's well, all the family, and all the sangha.

--Joe (Guo Xiang)
by desert_woodworker
Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:54 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Entry into Emptiness
Replies: 38
Views: 1485

Re: Entry into Emptiness

loves' the unjust wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:01 pm
Joe--,
Nothing has an importance out of the practice?
I'd say that if you're invested-in, and concerned about, correct practice, then you will consider it to be important, yes.

If you have a teacher, the correctness of correct practice will become clear.

--Joe
by desert_woodworker
Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:44 pm
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: American Zen - A Brief History
Replies: 32
Views: 1717

Re: American Zen - A Brief History

Is there a distinct “American Zen”? And if there is, how would you describe it? There's no distinct American Zen, now, Clyde, no; and, I hope not. There may be peculiarities of American Zen- practice , versus those peculiarities of practice in the East (China; Japan; Korea; Vietnam), but this is on...
by desert_woodworker
Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:26 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: JOKES
Replies: 339
Views: 16799

Re: JOKES

Why did the guy get out of the Chicken egg business?

[SPOILER]
It was the same thing, ova, and ova!
by desert_woodworker
Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:02 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Music
Replies: 502
Views: 29049

Re: Music

Ok, Enver, et al. !, Here is " America's Number One Hit " (1963). ;) G2sH6h0ViDg Tell Him by: The Exciters I know something about love You've gotta want it bad If that guy's got into your blood Go out and get him If you want him to be The very heart of you Makes you want to breathe Here's the thing ...