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by Great Sage EofH
Wed May 22, 2019 7:44 pm
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: dependent origination
Replies: 77
Views: 750

Re: dependent origination

I find it unlikely that an aristocratic family in South Asia that produces a son who joins the then arising Śramaṇic movement had no context in Vedic culture. But what do I know? I'll cede the point on the basis of my ignorance.
by Great Sage EofH
Wed May 22, 2019 4:31 am
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: dependent origination
Replies: 77
Views: 750

Re: dependent origination

Thank you for the opinion from a Hindu perspective. ..... It's also worth noting that classical Buddhist teaching is entirely within the Vedic tradition.... Buddhism clearly is not part of the Vedic tradition and does not stem from the Vedic traditions. Oh that's interesting. So before Buddha awake...
by Great Sage EofH
Tue May 21, 2019 3:45 pm
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: dependent origination
Replies: 77
Views: 750

Re: dependent origination

Thank you for the opinion from a Hindu perspective. What's funny about this, it's also possible within the framework of Advaita Vedanta to take a purely classical Buddhist view, because Advaita is a means of inquiry, not a creedal position as Westerners prefer to believe, and there are many perspec...
by Great Sage EofH
Mon May 20, 2019 5:42 am
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: dependent origination
Replies: 77
Views: 750

Re: dependent origination

it's not anomalous to me, one of the first Pali text problems I ended up with was the 37 Dhamma of Enlightenment: the 4 Satipaṭṭhāna, the 4 Efforts, 4 Bases, 5 Faculties, 5 Powers, 7 Factors, and the 8 Path Factors. Sort of ackward dealing with 37 Dhamma like this. I can't even remember why now
by Great Sage EofH
Mon May 20, 2019 5:22 am
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: dependent origination
Replies: 77
Views: 750

Re: dependent origination

clyde wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 6:55 pm
Also, regardless of which sutta or translation, the text seems to imply that each term (of the twelve terms) is a condition precedent, not a cause.
Thanisarro translates it as "requistite condition" - basically what you're saying
by Great Sage EofH
Mon May 20, 2019 5:12 am
Forum: Support, Suggestions
Topic: This Forum in Particular
Replies: 34
Views: 674

Re: This Forum in Particular

I try to avoid harmful speech; What do you do in practicing the right speech? LOL first I make sure its 100% the truth no matter what. Second (this one is harder) I try not to say anything about anyone that I'd also not tell them. I try to point out that the Dharma has proven itself to me as reliab...
by Great Sage EofH
Sun May 19, 2019 4:49 pm
Forum: Support, Suggestions
Topic: This Forum in Particular
Replies: 34
Views: 674

Re: This Forum in Particular

Since mind is a mirror Could you be talking to yourself? It's nice to transcend the thinking mind occasionally, for no other reason than the peace and quiet. But I'd never ask people not to share to further that. "Dropping away of body and Mind" is about whats going on inside me, not whats going on...
by Great Sage EofH
Sun May 19, 2019 4:32 pm
Forum: Resources
Topic: Rulu's Homepage
Replies: 6
Views: 90

Re: Rulu's Homepage

Aha http://www.sutrasmantras.info/index.html good catch! Thanks. Even after looking through the site it is not clear to me what the background of Rulu is (I am really looking for the reason I should trust the translations; this is not a criticism). Do you happen to know? I tried to research that fo...
by Great Sage EofH
Sun May 19, 2019 2:17 am
Forum: Resources
Topic: Rulu's Homepage
Replies: 6
Views: 90

Re: Rulu's Homepage

by Great Sage EofH
Sun May 19, 2019 1:36 am
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: dependent origination
Replies: 77
Views: 750

Re: dependent origination

In other words the cause of ignorance is dependence, and independence the remedy. The humorous irony here (but not humorous for the suffering) is that many depend on a teacher first until their practise makes them fully idenpendent and "realization" occurs from ones own understanding. I think maybe...
by Great Sage EofH
Sun May 19, 2019 1:17 am
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: dependent origination
Replies: 77
Views: 750

Re: dependent origination

So this text starts with ignorance, and upon that volitional impulses, upon that arises Sensual consciousness.... etc.... until....consciousnesses of becoming (craving) upon that a consciousness of birth In other words the cause of ignorance is dependence, and independence the remedy. The humorous ...
by Great Sage EofH
Sun May 19, 2019 1:13 am
Forum: Resources
Topic: Rulu's Homepage
Replies: 6
Views: 90

Rulu's Homepage

Nifty websites to explore here, lots of translation and resources from the Chinese language
by Great Sage EofH
Sun May 19, 2019 12:56 am
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: dependent origination
Replies: 77
Views: 750

Re: dependent origination

Yes, individual consciousness is just like a wave upon the water, if the mind is likened to a wave, out of ignorance arises, the perceptions, assumptions, delusions of "I am a wave" and ultimately the "oh shit the wave is going away, its becoming/merging with other waves" - so beginning in ignorance...
by Great Sage EofH
Sun May 19, 2019 12:10 am
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: dependent origination
Replies: 77
Views: 750

Re: dependent origination

in other words, things arise, we don't know where from, because causations are inscrutable, unfathomable, chain upon chain, everything dependent on something else. So this mind is like a wave and this practice like a surfboard. It's not rocket science. It's getting on the board and riding. So this t...
by Great Sage EofH
Sun May 19, 2019 12:05 am
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: dependent origination
Replies: 77
Views: 750

Re: dependent origination

https://suttacentral.net/sn12.20/en/sujato linked discourses 12 2. fuel 20. Conditions At Sāvatthī. “Mendicants, I will teach you dependent origination and dependently originated phenomena. Listen and pay close attention, I will speak.” “Yes, sir,” they replied. The Buddha said this: “And what is de...
by Great Sage EofH
Sat May 18, 2019 11:58 pm
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: dependent origination
Replies: 77
Views: 750

Re: dependent origination

No I don't have one category for "mental things" different from everything else. Everything is mind. maybe farther down the wikipedia page then? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prat%C4%ABtyasamutp%C4%81da super handy chart, worth looking at, and of course this, maybe this is closer to how i concieve o...
by Great Sage EofH
Sat May 18, 2019 11:34 pm
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: dependent origination
Replies: 77
Views: 750

Re: dependent origination

To be clear, I was using DO as described in the Paticca-samuppada-vibhanga Sutta: Analysis of Dependent Co-arising (https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn12/sn12.002.than.html and in other suttas) which describes twelve steps, beginning with “ignorance”, including “contact”, and ending with...
by Great Sage EofH
Sat May 18, 2019 4:09 pm
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: dependent origination
Replies: 77
Views: 750

Re: dependent origination

How do I understand DO? I like to refer to the objective non-partisan source sometimes. Or trying to be objective is their objective. "Pratītyasamutpāda (Sanskrit: प्रतीत्यसमुत्पाद pratītyasamutpāda; Pali: पटिच्चसमुप्पाद paṭiccasamuppāda), commonly translated as dependent origination, or dependent a...
by Great Sage EofH
Sat May 18, 2019 3:45 pm
Forum: Support, Suggestions
Topic: This Forum in Particular
Replies: 34
Views: 674

Re: This Forum in Particular

But if the subject is zazen there should be things you could say. Unless you are one of the "rare birds" that thinks one must crush out every thought. In which case every time someone posts you react with criticism and contempt. Ever since the implosion of ZFI, which in my opinion was a very dysfun...
by Great Sage EofH
Fri May 17, 2019 4:26 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Wabi-Sabi
Replies: 19
Views: 429

Re: Wabi-Sabi

1.the beauty of imperfection

2.transience

3.weathered and worn

4.not assertive of newness

5...?