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by jundocohen
Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:11 am
Forum: Soto
Topic: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]
Replies: 53
Views: 2343

Re: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]

LoBreglio has an interesting comment on how "Verification" had a rather special meaning, and came to be interpreted in the Shushogi without Zazen ... How then does his Shushōgi embody a jiriki path? [The principle author] Ōuchi’s strategy is revealed in his understanding of the term shushōgi – “the ...
by jundocohen
Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:57 am
Forum: Soto
Topic: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]
Replies: 53
Views: 2343

Re: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]

hehe...I wonder if James has been lurking 'round these parts: The Meaning of Practice and Verification (Shushôgi) ... From here . James' piece does not go into the history of the Soto-shu's "Shushogi." It is not "a summation of Eihei Dogen’s teachings," and was never meant to be. The Shushogi was w...
by jundocohen
Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:51 pm
Forum: Zen Buddhism
Topic: Translation of Sunyata
Replies: 13
Views: 449

Re: Translation of Sunyata

The expression “limitless possibilities” as a connotation for emptiness ( sunnata / sunyata ) seemed odd to me at first, but then I remembered the story of the empty tea cup and one of the often told lessons that the usefulness of the tea cup is its emptiness. It’s emptiness allows it to be filled ...
by jundocohen
Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:00 pm
Forum: Soto
Topic: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]
Replies: 53
Views: 2343

Re: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]

One more reason this is moot. I did not see this mentioned in Greg's essays, pardon me if I missed it. From a non-dual perspective, there is no one to do the comprehending and nothing to be comprehended, no one to become aware and nothing to be aware of, no witness and nothing witnessed, no verifier...
by jundocohen
Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:29 am
Forum: Soto
Topic: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]
Replies: 53
Views: 2343

Re: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]

Hi Spikey, Just for my reference, Spikey, I am just wondering if you are a student of Chinese and Japanese yourself? Gassho, J Hi jundo, Just for my reference, do you say that "satori" is a synonym of "sho"? Hi Spikey, Well, kind of yes. They are near synonyms. Greg presents the following Character...
by jundocohen
Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:56 am
Forum: Soto
Topic: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]
Replies: 53
Views: 2343

Re: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]

Note point #3. (#1 okay to say valid; #2 okay to say semi valid; #3 okay to say not valid). That should be clear enough, "i.e., satori is not a synonym of sho". Granted, some terms are difficult to translate. For example, "Sunyata" traditionally has been translated as "emptiness", as per many litur...
by jundocohen
Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:02 am
Forum: Soto
Topic: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]
Replies: 53
Views: 2343

Re: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]

Jundo, in my limited experience, it's not only in Soto, but in all schools of Zen, that this originally enlightened, already a Buddha, teaching is fully embraced. And not only in Zen. If I recall correctly, Surya Das recounts in his first chance meeting with the 16th Karmapa, he asked the great man...
by jundocohen
Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:07 am
Forum: Thien
Topic: Altered Space for a New Zen in Vietnam
Replies: 0
Views: 166

Altered Space for a New Zen in Vietnam

Just posting this here for anyone interested, a topic I know little about. The author is a historian of Vietnamese Buddhism from Canada who discusses the reintroduction of Zen into Vietnam. Abstract: Twentieth century events, with the Buddhist Revival (in response to colonialism), the war (and subse...
by jundocohen
Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:33 am
Forum: Soto
Topic: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]
Replies: 53
Views: 2343

Re: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]

Who said I ever got over it? I love/d that cat, get a lump in my throat just thinking of the little guy.

Then again, what cat and what to get over? What throat?

Gassho J
by jundocohen
Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:58 am
Forum: Soto
Topic: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]
Replies: 53
Views: 2343

Re: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]

You appear to be saying that you suffered the hours of depressed thoughts and emotions because it would be impossible to do otherwise in this deluded “human world.” Well, it is what happened based on my brain chemistry and other factors at the time, so what happens does happen. Whether it could hav...
by jundocohen
Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:06 am
Forum: Soto
Topic: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]
Replies: 53
Views: 2343

Re: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]

An interesting question that’s relevant to the topic is whether your depression would return if you stopped practicing. The fact that you continue to practice indicates a dependent relationship. That being the case, it seems most true to say that enlightenment (the sessation of suffering, or at lea...
by jundocohen
Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:24 pm
Forum: Soto
Topic: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]
Replies: 53
Views: 2343

Re: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]

An interesting question that’s relevant to the topic is whether your depression would return if you stopped practicing. The fact that you continue to practice indicates a dependent relationship. That being the case, it seems most true to say that enlightenment (the sessation of suffering, or at lea...
by jundocohen
Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:44 pm
Forum: Soto
Topic: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]
Replies: 53
Views: 2343

Re: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]

This is precisely where it kinda reveals itself as wordplay. The dishes are not clean, until they are. We are not liberated, until we truly know that we are. Saying to someone deep in the darkness of depression that they are a Buddha, free and enlightened, is a mockery. Their suffering is the most ...
by jundocohen
Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:10 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Universe Is Crazy
Replies: 5
Views: 221

The Universe Is Crazy

Scientific American: Could Multiple Personality Disorder Explain Life, the Universe and Everything? A new paper argues that the condition now known as “Dissociative Identity Disorder” might help us understand the fundamental nature of reality ... And here is where dissociation comes in. We know emp...
by jundocohen
Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:53 am
Forum: Soto
Topic: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]
Replies: 53
Views: 2343

Re: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]

PS - I might offer again my little view that this is really a "non-issue," not really a difference for the sameness. From the Hongaku (Original Enlightenment) viewpoint, the practice is the verification of enlightenment even before the doing, even for the beginner who has yet to taste anything (as D...
by jundocohen
Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:08 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: A Buddhist Statement on the Separation of Families
Replies: 10
Views: 392

Re: A Buddhist Statement on the Separation of Families

It is also worth noting that Wednesday was the International Day of the Refugee. It is said that there are 69 million displaced persons worldwide. https://www.awarenessdays.com/awareness-days-calendar/world-refugee-day-2018/ The following is offered as "citizen (and an immigrant myself)" not "Zen gu...
by jundocohen
Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:21 pm
Forum: Soto
Topic: Disagreeing with Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment" [MOD EDIT]
Replies: 53
Views: 2343

Re: The Misnomer of Greg Wonderwheel's "The Misnomer of Dogen's "Practice is Enlightenment""

If I may offer one small perspective ... The question of whether or not Dogen ever taught "practice and enlightenment are one" or "continuous practice, continuous enlightenment" is not important in the universe. Yet, it is also more than merely an intellectual exercise. Why? They are teachings that ...
by jundocohen
Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:35 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Somewhere there's a Topic
Replies: 37
Views: 1084

Re: Somewhere there's a Topic

maybe if we just stop competing :110: Yes, pizza people can order pizza, taco people can order tacos. Please, just a request however: Don°t call Dogen a lover of pizza when historically it can be shown conclusively beyond any doubt that he was not, nor insist that in a future life I may be reborn a...
by jundocohen
Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:05 am
Forum: Soto
Topic: Neuroscience and Shikantaza
Replies: 7
Views: 402

Re: Neuroscience and Shikantaza

Hi Joe, Now, the question that will come up first is, when to study these populations? In what phase of their activities during a day? While they are sitting zazen?, or just sitting quietly in a chair? In sleep? Or, when eating?, or listening to music? Surely, if a practice is to change the traits o...