For Avisitor...Is Zen thinking of no-thought?

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Re: For Avisitor...Is Zen thinking of no-thought?

Post by desert_woodworker » Wed May 15, 2019 1:05 am

Really? Nothing since 12 days ago?

I won't hold our current bunch of Members on-the-spot for helping, or opining. Simple.

Maybe it's Vacation time?, and time for being away? I'm for the Islands, too. Cover-up, or use sun-block, you Caucasians! Or, at least, enough of that chemical stuff. Be safe.

Enver, you already know the answer, given here. It's up to you to test it, or believe it. No, there is no "Zen". But, there is Zen Buddhist practice.

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Post by loves' the unjust » Fri May 17, 2019 1:54 pm

desert_woodworker wrote: Enver, you already know the answer, given here. It's up to you to test it, or believe it. No, there is no "Zen". But, there is Zen Buddhist practice.
Thank you, always appreciate.

What is the difference between Zen and Zen Buddhist practice in your point of view?


eer, let me say,

Zen is being cut off that chemical stuff. eh?
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Re: For Avisitor...Is Zen thinking of no-thought?

Post by loves' the unjust » Sat May 18, 2019 9:54 am

The one who couldn't been able to save himself can be able to save others?

I don't think so
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Post by loves' the unjust » Sat May 25, 2019 8:23 am

Again is zen thinking of no thought?
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Re: For Avisitor...Is Zen thinking of no-thought?

Post by Caodemarte » Sat May 25, 2019 7:03 pm

loves' the unjust wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 8:23 am
Again is zen thinking of no thought?
“....In Japanese Soto Zen, another name for non-thinking is shikantaza. It is wide awake awareness that is simply present with what arises, an awareness in which awareness itself and the contents of awareness are unseparated.We don’t apply tools like evaluation, analysis, or logic to what arises. These are habits of mind mobilized to serve our agendas. And if these habits do mobilize in zazen, they’re simply accepted as more scenery within our spacious awareness, no different from the sound of a bird outside or a twinge of stiffness in the neck. In other words, breath by breath, we drop any agenda. We abide, wide awake, in non-agency. This is thinking non-thinking...

Why did Yaoshan say “thinking non-thinking” rather than just saying “I’m not thinking?” I think it’s because there is effort involved in zazen; the mind is fully engaged and absorbed. It’s a kind of stillness, but it’s a dynamic stillness. The thinking equipment is actively engaged in non-thinking. In other words, it’s not a “not-doing;” it’s a ‘different doing.’ “
http://peterschireson.com/non-thinking/

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Post by loves' the unjust » Sat May 25, 2019 8:00 pm

Thanks Caodemarte
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Post by loves' the unjust » Sat May 25, 2019 8:01 pm

Our life turn into a cartoon movie.
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Post by fuki » Sat May 25, 2019 10:27 pm

loves' the unjust wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 8:01 pm
Our life turn into a cartoon movie.
No what's "ours" is the light, the nature of perception and the screen, what is projected on the screen is not ours/You, eventhough there is a movie you know that appearance is an illusion, the light does not move. The movement/movie is the mind, not You.
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Re: For Avisitor...Is Zen thinking of no-thought?

Post by loves' the unjust » Sun May 26, 2019 7:31 am

no problem, buddy.
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