bodhi wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:33 pm
desert_woodworker wrote:Hmm-m, you both misunderstand me.
Ah, so you've dropped the nobility, good.
I've not expressed any understanding. I asked how you believe a matrix relates to Emptiness/DO.
Well, that's twice now that you've misunderstood my sentence, sorry.
I "explained" (imperfectly) that one is the matrix for the other. Without experiencing emptiness, one does not see (experience
what I consider the beautiful, limpid, and clear) operation of dependent origination. It's simple. The two, not really two, go together, or just are together, as one.
(Now, Fuki will probably say that this too is "good relationship advice" again! )
Meido Roshi, on a different topic here, wrote about continuing samadhi-practice following an awakening. A line he uses there resonates too with me in connection with, I would say, one's experience of emptiness, and hence experience of dependent origination as well: he writes that this samadhi-practice "...is the experience that everything one encounters is precisely one's original face".
I'd say the same about one's experience of emptiness and of dependent origination: it is "...precisely one's original face". Meido's fuller paragraph is below:
- "The jewel mirror samadhi (hokkyo zanmai) isn't a method or something taught
really. It is just the condition of someone who, emerging from the recognition
of their nature, returns again and again to it, practicing to integrate it
seamlessly within all activities. In other words, it is the experience that
everything one encounters is precisely one's original face."
Now, I may be wrong in intimating, however inadvertently, that there is a connection there, generally
(say, for all people [practitioners... ] ), but I definitely feel one and don't mind saying so.
Back to the no-bull silence, now.