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DAILY LIFE

Post by Enver M. » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:44 am

PRACTICE THIS!!!

ONE-POINTEDNESS
OF MIND

GIVE UP
CONCENTRATION

I have said this before;

Day and night
focus on one thing only that's
the relaxation of mind!

here;
the 'relaxation' means;
not to focus on any single
object.
(or
subject)

~ free flying!
or
FLYING EAGLE!


AND ZAZEN IS THIS

SO PRACTICE WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNED

IN

[ ZAZEN ]


PUT IT IN DAILY LIFE!!!




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Re: DAILY LIFE

Post by Enver M. » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:49 am

IN ZAZEN LEARN THE EMPTY MIND!


@nd PUT IT IN DAILY LIFE!

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Post by desert_woodworker » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:07 am

Daily life is our Yoga. --Joe

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Post by Crystal » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:16 pm

Daily life is our Yoga. --Joe

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Post by Enver M. » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:37 pm

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Re: DAILY LIFE

Post by Enver M. » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:40 am

I get tired of giving meaning to life.

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Re: DAILY LIFE

Post by Enver M. » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:50 am

Bhikkhus, just give up thinking about this and that.which is philosophy.only look into your dailylifes.

what to do in daily life.

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Re: DAILY LIFE

Post by [james] » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:41 pm

Enver M. wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:50 am
Bhikkhus, just give up thinking about this and that.which is philosophy.only look into your dailylifes.
Who said this?
what to do in daily life.
Whatever you do, it remains daily life. Does it matter what you do? No, I don’t think it does. What matters is how you do it. Sila, samadhi, panna.

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Re: DAILY LIFE

Post by Enver M. » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:30 am

[james] wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:41 pm
Who said this?
Enver.the King of zen.Even my name is a signature of zen.
Whatever you do, it remains daily life. Does it matter what you do? No, I don’t think it does. What matters is how you do it. Sila, samadhi, panna.
You are philosophying even the simple facts of life.I think you don't understand the zen.

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Re: DAILY LIFE

Post by Enver M. » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:40 am

Everyone have somethings to do in life.Let's do them.from now on. :wool:

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Post by [james] » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:52 pm

Enver M. wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:30 am
... I think you don't understand the zen.
You may be right.
I sometimes think otherwise.
Thanks for the reminder.
Enver M. wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:30 am
[james] wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:41 pm
Whatever you do, it remains daily life. Does it matter what you do? No, I don’t think it does. What matters is how you do it. Sila, samadhi, panna.
You are philosophying even the simple facts of life...
I don’t see the “philosophying”. You made a simple statement, “what to do in daily life.” which, inattentively, I read as a question. I responded, as I did, with the assumption that whatever one does it can only be done in daily life. There is no other life. We are all always doing something, it can’t be otherwise. My understanding, of zen, is that what is done is of less concern than how it is done.

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Re: DAILY LIFE

Post by Enver M. » Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:30 pm

[james] wrote: My understanding, of zen, is that what is done is of less concern than how it is done.
When the question "How" arises the philosophy begins.

Anyway you are very close to whatever you are chasing.Which doesn't in my concern.

./\.

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Re: DAILY LIFE

Post by Dan74 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:55 pm

It reminds me of Max in Get Smart trying to figure out the who-done-it: "if you know the where and the how, then you will know the when and the who!
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Post by Kaya » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:39 pm

Enver M. wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:30 pm
[james] wrote: My understanding, of zen, is that what is done is of less concern than how it is done.
When the question "How" arises the philosophy begins.

Anyway you are very close to whatever you are chasing.Which doesn't in my concern.

./\.
I don't see why the wisdom of philosophy should be classified as a negative.

Likewise I am blind as to how one would interpret statements by [james] as him chasing anything at all: in fact, quite the opposite, as, imo, his statements indicate that he espouses ordinariness.

Perhaps your "concern" should be directed to the benefit of all beings, without exception.

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Re: DAILY LIFE

Post by Enver M. » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:01 am

Kaya wrote: I don't see why the wisdom of philosophy should be classified as a negative.
It is simple.Because I'm philosophying since i begin to read about zen nearly 15 years ago which i still.But couldn't be able to hear even one locust chirring and still at level one at ten bulls.

where do you think i make the mistake?
Likewise I am blind as to how one would interpret statements by [james] as him chasing anything at all: in fact, quite the opposite, as, imo, his statements indicate that he espouses ordinariness.
Well my words were about his daily life off the subject.I thought if he has been chasing something in mind he could be close to it.that'all. just an opinion.
Perhaps your "concern" should be directed to the benefit of all beings, without exception.
that's right.which is the ideal.if life don't bind your foot somehow.

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Re: DAILY LIFE

Post by Enver M. » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:32 am

Re: [Dan74]

It reminds me of my fathers words:"Marriage is not done to be marry, but marriage is done to be happy"

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Re: DAILY LIFE

Post by [james] » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:04 pm

Enver M. wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:01 am
It is simple.Because I'm philosophying since i begin to read about zen nearly 15 years ago which i still.But couldn't be able to hear even one locust chirring and still at level one at ten bulls.

where do you think i make the mistake?
Reading is one thing, zazen is another. Do you have zazen?
Well my words were about his daily life off the subject.
In daily life there is no off the subject
that's right.which is the ideal.if life don't bind your foot somehow.
Your foot, bound or unbound... daily life.

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Re: DAILY LIFE

Post by Enver M. » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:50 pm

[james] wrote: Reading is one thing, zazen is another.
that's right.

so, that I have give up reading/philosophing.rather to have zazen in rest of my growing.
Do you have zazen?
that's right.

not off the subject.
In daily life there is no off the subject
that's right.

daily life itself should become the meditation itself.how will it become?
only when daily life becomes only daily life.
Your foot, bound or unbound... daily life.
that's right.

I have embeded my problems inside.like the native americans embeded the tomahawks erstwhile.

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Re: DAILY LIFE

Post by desert_woodworker » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:48 pm

All's well. Just practice as we've learned.

--Joe
"Ignorance is to be ignorant of one's original mind." - Ma Tsu

"Liberation is awakening to one's original nature." - Ma Tsu

"The World is all that is the case". -Ludwig Wittgenstein

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