The Search for the Bull

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Enver M.
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Re: The Search for the Bull

Post by Enver M. » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:17 pm

I find my mind.What is next?
jump to the water (how will you learn to swim)

This is Dogen's dropping off body and mind

In my words, Both Bull & Self Transcended

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Re: The Search for the Bull

Post by Mason » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:53 pm

See that all phenomena are not mind nor anything but mind.

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Re: The Search for the Bull

Post by Enver M. » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:54 pm

you are right but that's not the answer of my question.
jump to the water (how will you learn to swim)

This is Dogen's dropping off body and mind

In my words, Both Bull & Self Transcended

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Re: The Search for the Bull

Post by Mason » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:05 pm

Enver M. wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:54 pm
you are right but that's not the answer of my question.
Pose your question better, then!

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Re: The Search for the Bull

Post by Enver M. » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:10 pm

you always checkmate me, in a one way
jump to the water (how will you learn to swim)

This is Dogen's dropping off body and mind

In my words, Both Bull & Self Transcended

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Re: The Search for the Bull

Post by Mason » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:12 pm

My apologies. Just trying to give a hand to an old friend.

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Re: The Search for the Bull

Post by fuki » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:58 pm

desert_woodworker wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:57 pm
Is the "Bull" somewhere in THIS, too? Yes; some people eat the bull (or at least the gelded steer).
Well the moon is currently in bull (Taurus)

To cloudy to get a picture at the moment.

Moon above the clouds;
always the same
Valley moon, mountain moon
different ... :558:
(saying 95)
meldpunt seksueel misbruik in boeddhistische gemeenschappen.
https://meldpuntbg.nl/

IZIhttp://www.zeninstitute.org/en/iziae/main.html

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Re: The Search for the Bull

Post by KeithA » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:58 am

"Comment: The bull never has been lost. What need is there to search?"

With these words, the Dharma flourishes.
You make, you get.

New Haven Zen Center

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Re: The Search for the Bull

Post by Enver M. » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:33 am

KeithA wrote:
Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:58 am
"Comment: The bull never has been lost. What need is there to search?"

With these words, the Dharma flourishes.
:namaste:

Hello Keith,

I have complete all my preparation.
I have done my final deep contemplation.
And last night I decided to begin my journey.
Of couse, what I mean with to begin is to begin practicing fully.
With this decision, I come to accept that;
I will give up being a troll.
Take my self from offensive to defensive.
and only the practice will be in my life 24/7
I will forget my war, my fight and my enemies
but will be just focus on this.
I may not be appear at the forum after this frequently but if there is anything about practice
I'll sure be there.
I guess many things will change for me,
firstly my standpoint against life,
will inform everyone about the changes
and the new developments.
stay cool stay happy
jump to the water (how will you learn to swim)

This is Dogen's dropping off body and mind

In my words, Both Bull & Self Transcended

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Re: The Search for the Bull

Post by Mason » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:17 am

Congrats Enver. Just go with the flow, don't push. You Are Welcome!!

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Re: The Search for the Bull

Post by Enver M. » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:29 am

See you,
jump to the water (how will you learn to swim)

This is Dogen's dropping off body and mind

In my words, Both Bull & Self Transcended

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Re: The Search for the Bull

Post by Enver M. » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:11 pm

Keith, this song is for you:

Zakkum - Ahtapotlar
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=Gv-ISfW_5dE

here; is another version
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=a2tH8GLE88I
jump to the water (how will you learn to swim)

This is Dogen's dropping off body and mind

In my words, Both Bull & Self Transcended

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