Look! (see!).The manta ray wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:05 pmSay something without uttering a word, say nothing through spoken word. Quick make haste, or be on your way, you lonely fool.
No fools here, though, ...who reply to your post.

--Joe
Look! (see!).The manta ray wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:05 pmSay something without uttering a word, say nothing through spoken word. Quick make haste, or be on your way, you lonely fool.
Yes, brother i've spend all my life with thinking.
I wonder, “In all the Internets, there are no Zen forums.”Huangbo Xiyun once declared to his disciples, “Throughout all of China there are no teachers of Zen.”
One of his monks objected, “How can you say that? Aren’t we all here students of Zen?”
“I didn’t say there was no Zen,” Huangbo told him, “I only pointed out that there were no teachers of Zen.”
[Huangbo Xiyun – Zen Masters of China: 181, 192-95, 218]
If we are "like minded", there is no joining. We already belong.desert_woodworker wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:44 pmwishing to join and enjoy the company of the ranks of like-minded practitioners
Good koan thanks for sharing.clyde wrote: Huangbo Xiyun once declared to his disciples, “Throughout all of China there are no teachers of Zen.”
One of his monks objected, “How can you say that? Aren’t we all here students of Zen?”
“I didn’t say there was no Zen,” Huangbo told him, “I only pointed out that there were no teachers of Zen.”
[Huangbo Xiyun – Zen Masters of China: 181, 192-95, 218]
In fact, there IS no Zen, even though the Ch'an master did not say so. But, there is correct Zen Buddhist practice. Teachers (and the environment and sangha surrounding them) teach that.
Exactly.%100 with you here.desert_woodworker wrote: In fact, there IS no Zen, even though the Ch'an master did not say so. But, there is correct Zen Buddhist practice. Teachers (and the environment and sangha surrounding them) teach that.
I had heard about him.I'm sure he is definetely and inteligently a qualified master.Especially if you commend.But I'm on the side to look after my own parents for now.As they are very old, tired and ill.In this way i'm hoping to come some several progress also.This may also prevent from waste of years.I had said before the accessible teacher is the best.And you are the closest one having time with me recently.A koan is only a koan when the practice of it is a practice between teacher and student. Lacking that, it's a quaint or puzzling story otherwise, just empty-calories for the sugar-burning, moving-mind, an overload for the pancreas. Definitely no "Zen" in that!![]()
Granted, I know that John Tarrant Roshi has a looser view, and he expresses it in his THE LIGHT INSIDE THE DARK, ...but he is a Zen Buddhist teacher, and would like you to come practice with him anyway.