Why is there suffering?

[Mason]

Those who think the cause of suffering (need) is unreal,

Will experience the reality of suffering.

Those who think suffering (caused by need) is unreal,

“need” to experience the reality of need.

Those who think the end of suffering is unreal,

Need to experience the reality of suffering.

Those who think the path to the end of suffering is unreal,

Need to cultivate the eightfold path.

Those who think the eightfold path is unreal,

Need to be liberated. Those who think

“I am liberated,” need to experience suffering.

Those who think suffering is unreal,

Need to experience suffering.

Those who think experience is unreal,

Should try to experience.

Those who think need is unreal,

Need to be happy.


People who think happiness is unreal,
Should enjoy the great cessation.
Therefore, meditate correctly.

Ordinary mind is the way.
Ask Non-Sin (Nansen) about it.
It is found in the Joshu-roku.

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[Mason]

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[Mason]

Is Jimmy Yu (Guogu, Guo Gu) around to translate the middle section?

[Enver M.]

I don't know chinese.the most respected language around here is arabic.my own take is he could be talking about honesty.

[Mason]

In that case, why do you lie?

[Enver M.]

I just compare it with arabic.arabic seems a loose language.so i say honesty.i don't know arabic either.

[Mason]

You take, you get.
Very peaceful.
But not without compassion.

[Enver M.]

It could be simple misunderstanding.
but it is not a lie.

[Mason]

Be careful when you see the Buddha on the road.

[Enver M.]

Be careful

what is wrong with you today buddy?daily changing zodiacal equinox?

when you see the Buddha

really? when did you see a Buddha last time?
do you think they could be seen?

on the road

i went to the market short time ago.there were no buddha i see on the road.


so relax!!

[Mason]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhammacak ... tana_Sutta

[Mason]

http://chinabuddhismencyclopedia.com/en ... S%C5%ABtra

[Enver M.]

without wisdom a man is not a man.

[Enver M.]

if you're happy with your wisdom you know zen

[desert_woodworker]

Upon inhaling and exhaling, what suffering is there?

Just keep inhaling and exhaling. This seems to be key.

--Joe

[Kaya]

without wisdom a man is not a man.

Right. Ignorance is so unmanly . . .

(Fortunately, women are left out of this mess. Otherwise there would surely be hell to pay.)

[desert_woodworker]

There is certainly suffering.

Here in the South West (of the USA), many eventually come to the realization that it's time to cut back on the refried beans. This can help to reduce greenhouse gases, among others.

--Joe

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[Mason]

This thread is beginning to get a bit Lounge-y, what with all the refried beans and farting going on.

[The manta ray]

The only need is a function.

[Enver M.]

The only need is a function.

The only need is "a" function.my interpret would be: The only need is function

welcome manta