For Avisitor...Is Zen thinking of no-thought?

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Re: For Avisitor...Is Zen thinking of no-thought?

Post by avisitor » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:01 pm

Great Sage EofH wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:17 pm
Well, that's why i preferred not to go into the piles of words, it leaves the wrong impression. Truth is right in front of us. ... Impermanence. Everything else, no-self, suffering, the end of suffering, all follow accordingly. Simple, but it's not what the whole world believes.

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I know that even if one sees the truth of one's nature that one does not retreat into another world apart from the world one lives in now
There should not be a separation but a unification
The world may be an illusion with impermanence, no-self, suffering and all that follows accordingly
But, one does not eat meat and say that no animal was harmed. I believe Buddha gave up eating meat.
Why do that if it is only an illusion?

Yes, simple but not what the whole world believes.
That seems to be okay for now.
There will come a day when it will change, impermanence
What is important?
That we continue our practice
And the lineage of the Buddha continues
His beliefs and practices
And in this way the world will change.

Practice leads to varying degrees of the mind opening
And along the way there are traps, such as bliss, power, etc
Personally, it is about the journey to find one's nature :hatsoff:

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Re: For Avisitor...Is Zen thinking of no-thought?

Post by Kanji » Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:29 am

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From what I just read, it sounds like there is much that will prevent one from reaching the truth
Such things include "Bliss"

Don't think I have gotten that far ... :555: :106:
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Me neither avisitor, onwards and upwards! Or downwards, or sideways! :106:

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Re: For Avisitor...Is Zen thinking of no-thought?

Post by lindama » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:17 pm

"The Great Way is not difficult for those who have no preferences"
~ Faith in Mind (Hsin Hsin) ... The Third Patriarch, Jianzhi Sengcan

This comes to mind this morning. I wanted to post it recently.... There are many translations... the link below contains two of them... the written, more traditional (as I know it) and the audio, read by a younger Ram Dass voice is a very likeable, comfortable translation.

https://www.ramdass.org/ram-dass-reads- ... patriarch/


PS.... our much loved Gregory Wonderwheel, the Grandfather of ZFI (along with Clyde and others), also has a translation of Faith in Mind with commentary on Ekanyana, not two.... blog is a mix of zen and current issues:
http://wonderwheels.blogspot.com/

His translation:

http://home.pon.net/wildrose/buddhav.htm


a little history, I snagged a copy of this when he first published it on ZFI in 2009. I snagged a lot back then.

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Re: For Avisitor...Is Zen thinking of no-thought?

Post by Kanji » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:44 am

I love the Hsin Hsin Ming, and sometimes feel I need to have it written on my skin as a constant reminder! Great reading too :115:

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Re: For Avisitor...Is Zen thinking of no-thought?

Post by fuki » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:07 am

lindama wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:17 pm
"The Great Way is not difficult for those who have no preferences"
~ Faith in Mind (Hsin Hsin) ... The Third Patriarch, Jianzhi Sengcan

This comes to mind this morning. I wanted to post it recently.... There are many translations...
Linda, here's Faith in mind with Sheng Yeng's commentary as a guide to practise
https://terebess.hu/english/hsin3.html

"from" the sheng yeng's resource page
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=180
meldpunt seksueel misbruik in boeddhistische gemeenschappen.
https://meldpuntbg.nl/

IZIhttp://www.zeninstitute.org/en/iziae/main.html

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