The Buddha’s Death

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The Buddha’s Death

Post by Caodemarte » Tue May 29, 2018 2:54 pm

fuki wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 1:02 am
jundocohen wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 12:35 am

Yep, and you see, it killed the poor guy! :113:
It was poison right according to legend, or so-called "history"?

https://youtu.be/FL7-sbiGlzw
No, bad food apparently a bad piece of meat (pork) or plant that resembled meat.

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Post by desert_woodworker » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:25 am

Funny; I think spoiled meat is just spoiled, not too poisonous.

But plants are the things that can be truly poisonous. Even one wrong mushroom, for example, can destroy the liver in a few hours. And some "deadly Nightshade" plant parts are actually deadly (like Datura; Jimsonweed; Castor Bean; "Ricin" comes from it). The Oleander plants that so many grow here in the desert as landscape plants are pretty bad, too: one leaf can kill a cat or a dog, and give a human hallucinations of green geometric figures flying toward you, before you die of heart-arrhythmia (it's reported: this is not my experience ;) ).

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Post by Caodemarte » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:31 pm

Since the word used in at least some early accounts was “pork” and vegetarianism seems to have become part of the Indian scene long after the Buddha’s death some historians believe it was meat. Some believe
that the Buddha was an early vegetarian and that “pork” must have meant a mushroom that resembled pork and was called by the same name. There is no claim that I am aware of that the donor of the meal deliberately poisoned the Buddha. There are religious accounts claim the “omniscient Buddha” knew there was bad food, but, obedient to the rule that you eat what you are given, ate it anyway. Accounts agree that over the following days Buddha complained of stomach trouble and showed symptoms consist with food poisoning. There is a lot out there that can kill you including bad meat, bad mushroom, or badly prepared food. Hence we are chant at Zen services (roughly paraphrased): “Be careful! Work diligently! Life and death are fleeting.”

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Re: The Buddha’s Death

Post by desert_woodworker » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:11 pm

Just to be a wise-guy for once, I'll say that "rumors of the Buddha's death have been greatly exaggerated".

I understand there is a Buddha in each of us. So, the feller didn't die, nor even move to a place that's not Kansas anymore.

Well, now I'm out of jokes. Strong practice, everybody!

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Re: The Buddha’s Death

Post by fuki » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:03 pm

desert_woodworker wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:11 pm

I understand there is a Buddha in each of us. So, the feller didn't die, nor even move to a place that's not Kansas anymore.
(om namo buddha) Ja!

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