Hmm... just to be very clear - I think there have been some damn good threads here (maybe worth posting a few favourites!) and there are also some issues I already mentioned. So it's not about hand-wringing for me and fretting because the forum isn't what I had wanted. It's just about doing our best.
I fundamentally agree with Meido and disagree with Fuki on this point
"chatting" as it occurs I don't seperate from "clinical" Zen Buddhism, so in both groups here as it occurs, no fixed abode. I understand it's different for everyone but personally I think all this talk obstructs and divides, while again there's enough space for all divisions already to floorish, that is if ppl put seeds in the ground instead of complaining about the (perceived) weeds and grasses.
I feel that focus and discipline are needed on (at least the parts of the) Forum dedicated to Zen Buddhism. To me, the reason Meido wrote a book that he did, and didn't just sneeze into a sheet of paper and call it the Rinzai Way, was because sentient beings mired in ancient patterns, need focus, direction and discipline. This doesn't have to be strained and forced, of course, though initially it often is. It's like like the simile of the lute https://www.accesstoinsight.org/ati/tip ... .than.html
I do agree that there should be space on a forum both for focused talk and some banter and one should not be overly concerned. It is only when the banter dominates, that some folks ask themselves whether the place is serving its purpose as a Zen Buddhism discussion forum. So I see it as being about balance.
Yes, I do feel that we should self-curate and not "sneeze onto the screen". I aspire to post not only in a respectful and kind manner but in a sincere heartfelt meaningful and informative way, engage with other posts with my whole being, as much as I can (in the sense of truly actively listening), basically give my best to the forum. If I am having a shit day, I am not going to pour out my frustrations on to another person here (hopefully). Nor will I blabber on if I feel that I have nothing of value to contribute. The simple reason for that is that I want to share in the best way that I can. Does this make me an eager beaver, a try-hard, not-Zen? (I know I fail, but as Keith says, that's why we call it practice).
Like if you come over, I will ask what you like to eat and cook my best, rather than slap some leftovers onto a plate.
When Guo Gu posted some similar advice, it was basically rejected and I haven't seen him participate much since (though maybe for a different reason, I don't know). Meido is busy but we can see how he feels about the forum from the comment above. There is too much dross and not enough Zen Buddhist content. I get that some disagree and won't be convinced by this attempt.
So what can we do?