What is “the body”?

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Re: What is “the body”?

Post by Pablo » Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:54 am

desert_woodworker wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:54 pm
If's it's true (what I have expressed), then it's not superficial.
That's the thing. What's superficial if that you still think there is a truth. We have to let that go as well. Otherwise, we stink of Zen.

Also, if there is One Mind, there can't be many bodies. With one mind, one body. With no mind, no body. But that, too, needs to be let go of: just shows you that I'm not better than anyone else :)
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Re: What is “the body”?

Post by guo gu » Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:24 am

Pablo wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:21 pm
guo gu wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:41 pm
[james] wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:17 pm
What is the body?
a word.

gg
That's a classic koan in the making :D
New koans for people of all ages wrote:A monk asked Guo Gu: "What is the body?" Gu answered: "A word".

Here and now, can you show me that word?
shown! what else needs to be said?
Pablo wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:37 pm
[james] wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:24 pm
What do you say Pablo?
What is the body?
Hm.

I don't know.
missed!

gg

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Re: What is “the body”?

Post by Pablo » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:29 am

guo gu wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:24 am
Pablo wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:21 pm
guo gu wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:41 pm
[james] wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:17 pm
What is the body?
a word.

gg
That's a classic koan in the making :D
New koans for people of all ages wrote:A monk asked Guo Gu: "What is the body?" Gu answered: "A word".

Here and now, can you show me that word?
shown! what else needs to be said?


Saying anything is already too much.
guo gu wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:24 am
Pablo wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:37 pm
[james] wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:24 pm
What do you say Pablo?
What is the body?
Hm.

I don't know.
missed!

gg
No ray of sunlight's ever lost :)
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Re: What is “the body”?

Post by desert_woodworker » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:03 pm

Hi, P.,
Pablo wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:54 am
desert_woodworker wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:54 pm
If's it's true (what I have expressed), then it's not superficial.
That's the thing. What's superficial if that you still think there is a truth. We have to let that go as well. Otherwise, we stink of Zen.

Also, if there is One Mind, there can't be many bodies. With one mind, one body. With no mind, no body. But that, too, needs to be let go of: just shows you that I'm not better than anyone else :)
Sure; you're no better. We're all on a par. The par is Buddha Nature.

You say I "still think there's a truth". I don't see how or why you think that. Perhaps you still think there's a truth. Or none.

I think there's an opportunity in our correct-practice to awaken, and to see things as they are.

Things "as they are" is/are not "a truth", but they are just as "they are". Not being seen with the eyes of ...Delusion... .

We can go into this some more, if needed.

--Joe
Ignorance is to be ignorant of one's original mind. - Ma Tsu

Liberation is awakening to one's original nature. - Ma Tsu

The World is all that is the case. -Ludwig Wittgenstein

Why weigh anything heavy?

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