The Second Fruit

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The Second Fruit

Post by Mason » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:01 pm

As I rode the ox home,
I found my true place.
The bottom drops out,
Past actions float away.
This entire universe is my own radiance.

(yours too)
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Re: The Ultimate Cessation of Perception

Post by desert_woodworker » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:22 pm

Perception continues, and is heightened, while ideation may be silent for several months or more, following an awakening.

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Ignorance is to be ignorant of one's original mind. - Ma Tsu

Liberation is awakening to one's original nature. - Ma Tsu

The World is all that is the case. -Ludwig Wittgenstein

Why weigh anything heavy?

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Re: The Ultimate Cessation of Perception

Post by Enver M. » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:33 pm

Awakening is like to awake from a sleeping dream.
jump to the water (how will you learn to swim)

This is Dogen's dropping off body and mind

In my words, Both Bull & Self Transcended

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Re: The Ultimate Cessation of Perception

Post by desert_woodworker » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:49 pm

Hi, Enver,
Enver M. wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:33 pm
Awakening is like to awake from a sleeping dream.
:namaste: :bow2: :namaste: :bow2: :namaste: :bow2:

Yes; and all is silent.

Things moving appear not to be moving.

And!, well, ...those interested will find out when they awaken.

There may be much variation. Meanwhile (and always), see your Teacher, if you have one.

All best,

--Joe

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Re: The Ultimate Cessation of Perception

Post by Enver M. » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:33 am

_/|\_ ,
jump to the water (how will you learn to swim)

This is Dogen's dropping off body and mind

In my words, Both Bull & Self Transcended

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Re: The Ultimate Cessation of Perception

Post by desert_woodworker » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:41 am

_/|\_ .

--Joe

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Re: The Ultimate Cessation of Perception

Post by Mason » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:14 am

The dropping off drops off. It is seen that more is needed to be done, higher release is possible.

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Re: The Ultimate Cessation of Perception

Post by Mason » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:36 am

Ultimate cessation? Only arahants and Buddhas know. What I've seen is mere fish sauce. Ahhh, all these pilgrimages we go on through the years! So many peaks, and thankfully all of them have a way back down to the marketplace - where the real fun is.

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Re: The Second Fruit

Post by Mason » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:31 am

Friends,

I am going to report you my experience. You may find it very strange. Everything the Buddha wrote about rebirth, different realms, heavens, formless realms, Gods, Jesuses, Satans, and so forth is now seen to be correct. Jhana heavens wherein the experience is that of total mental suchness without reference to the five senses, a bliss beyond anything this planet offers today, and formless realms so incomprehensible you know of them in name only, all of this stuff is seen to be true.

When I awoke today, the very vastness of space exploded and I saw and effulgent Eye at the center of total space greet me to the new plane of existence I will be working with from now on. This is a very vast universe which goes beyond the tiny attainments being spoken of on this planet today. If you continue to practice without a grounding in the right view of the noble eightfold path, you will experience birth and death over and over and over again, possibly without hope of release for many eons. If you practice with right view, you can attain Total Unbinding in this lifetime.

I know it sounds strange, but it needed to be reported.

Peace
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Re: The Second Fruit

Post by Dan74 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:56 am

Sounds quite amazing, Mason.

Perhaps you can pull some of that transdimensional magic and breathe life into this little corner of the web, bring fresh people, help make it a vibrant hub for Zen!

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Re: The Second Fruit

Post by Mason » Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:41 am

A friend of mine told me, "Luminosity cannot be grasped if it is realised and actualised as empty luminosity or insubstantial clarity

Formless Jhanas will be grasped (this is why Buddha left his two formless Jhanas Teachers that didn’t get him liberated) unless it dawns as empty clarity"

So I am no longer so sure I know what I'm talking about. Well, we shall see.

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Re: The Ultimate Cessation of Perception

Post by Enver M. » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:27 am

Mason wrote: Ahhh, all these pilgrimages we go on through the years! So many peaks, and thankfully all of them have a way back down to the marketplace - where the real fun is.
Good words!
So I am no longer so sure I know what I'm talking about. Well, we shall see.
I believe you are speaking true.

thanks
jump to the water (how will you learn to swim)

This is Dogen's dropping off body and mind

In my words, Both Bull & Self Transcended

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