dependent origination

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Caodemarte
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Re: dependent origination

Post by Caodemarte » Wed May 29, 2019 4:24 pm

fuki wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 11:41 am
...DO is only applicable to a relative view, to the "highest" view aka Reality, everything is uncaused.
Not in Buddhism. In Buddhism it is neither caused nor uncaused, nor is it different from phenomena. But of course the trick is for us to find out for ourselves.
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Re: dependent origination

Post by fuki » Wed May 29, 2019 4:44 pm

Caodemarte wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 4:24 pm
fuki wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 11:41 am
...DO is only applicable to a relative view, to the "highest" view aka Reality, everything is uncaused.
Not in Buddhism. It is neither caused nor uncaused.
Sure, you can put it like that, afterall Buddhist words are causes and conditions right? But when not governed by space/time/causality, where is Buddhism or any religion, and where is it not? So we're not saying anything different, unless one is determined to look for them in appearances, which are words. But neither caused or uncaused also works.
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Re: dependent origination

Post by desert_woodworker » Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:22 am

The admission or observation, proper attribution, and identification of dependent origination is a part of the circumstance of the experience of it that eventuates at awakening, and in the weeks and months afterwards while still awake.

Take it for a fact, otherwise, but it comes at nowhere near the same level of conviction, because it is not thus a matter of experience. Quite like most everything else.

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