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Spike
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Post by Spike » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:32 pm

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asi ... ist-temple

"“But Buddhist faith isn’t about believing in God. It’s about following Buddha’s path, so it doesn’t matter whether it is represented by a machine, a scrap of iron or a tree.”

The temple insists the deity of mercy is able to transform itself at will and that an android is merely the latest incarnation."

Well, at least I didn't start this thread under "Zen People".

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Re: Mindar

Post by lindama » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:51 pm

Goto is no fuddy-duddy priest. :cat: Whatever we think, it breaks the mold concepts. imv, Buddhism is ripe for a modern imagination. Robot is a no-self thingy, free of causes and conditions, wires and metal... until it encounters illusion pursuing illusion in the programing.

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Re: Mindar

Post by Spike » Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:05 am

Its human colleagues predict that with artificial intelligence it could one day acquire unlimited wisdom.

“This robot will never die, it will just keep updating itself and evolving,” said priest Tensho Goto. “That’s the beauty of a robot. It can store knowledge forever and limitlessly.

That robot will never do nuance, i'll bet. Knowledge is different from understanding.

"Eye contact"?!

How would that knowledge be useful? What would that knowledge mean? Useless from a practice standpoint, yes?

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Re: Mindar

Post by Dan74 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:08 pm

Well... the thing is... we still don't understand the brain much at all. Neural nets, as they use in the AI, are not like the brain, though they were inspired by it, they lack many aspects of the brain's functioning, even on the basic hardware level, let alone actual consciousness.

When we train a NN, we basically program it to prioritise certain input-outputs over others. There is no actual understanding or awareness underpinning the responses.

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Re: Mindar

Post by avisitor » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:12 pm

So what is the test for consciousness?
What makes a neural network like the brain have consciousness?
Where one believes that a machine network does not?

Also, with advancing tech such as the quantum computer, with spin, superposition, quantum entanglement, Qubits
The landscape of AI changes quite dramatically

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