All sounds have the same nature....

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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by Turtle Clan » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:36 pm

fuki wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:03 pm
Mosquitos here don't carry that, though every now and then a few cases/sightings are recorded, in this county/muncipilaty-thingy too.They come here due to tire import mainly from Asia, ofcourse we somehow need cheap/used tires here and the companies just leave the tires outside in the rain where the eggs can hatch, eventhough there's a law against that, but companies don't care for cleaning eggs from tires, costs money, and the government despite the law don't check if the laws are being kept, because...that costs money too. And with climate change more and more cases are reported, so it won't be long until we have all those virus thingies here too. Which like covid 19 will cost a lot of money, much more then actually 'preventing' it now.
Where did you hear/read this? It seems, to me, quite unlikely that mosquito eggs would survive the journey in a tire shipment from Asia to Europe. And, even if they did, that the eggs themselves are carriers of parasites and viruses. Eggs are not larvae which are not adults. I have been under the impression that it is only adult female mosquitoes that become carriers by taking blood from carrier mammals and transferring the virus or parasite to subsequent hosts including humans. Is this not the case?

I agree with you about the money trail. All manner of fundamental oversight is neglected because of a shortsighted appreciation of cost.

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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by fuki » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:50 pm

Turtle Clan wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:36 pm
Where did you hear/read this? It seems, to me, quite unlikely that mosquito eggs would survive the journey in a tire shipment from Asia to Europe. And, even if they did, that the eggs themselves are carriers of parasites and viruses. Eggs are not larvae which are not adults. I have been under the impression that it is adult female mosquitoes that become carriers by taking blood from carrier mammals and transferring the virus or parasite to subsequent hosts including humans. Is this not the case?

I agree with you about the money trail. All manner of fundamental oversight is neglected because of a shortsighted appreciation of cost.
From the government (in dutch) :D
https://www.nvwa.nl/onderwerpen/muggen- ... -tijgermug

I'm not an expert on mosquitos, but when the tires are imported they often have a little bit of water in them, so they hatch on arrival or later (it can even survive dry tires or frozen temperatures, but heat and water ofcourse is asking for an explosion) In the case of the dengue virus then the eggs can have the virus and mosquitos are born with the virus and can infect humans and don't as in your example have to do the human-human leeching thingy, I don't know if this is true of other viruses too.

I let mosquitos bite me, because their eggs purify the water, are food for fish and birds, and a whole lot of interconnected thingies for the sake of the eco-system.

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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by Turtle Clan » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:20 pm

Thanks. I don’t deliberately let them bite yet I am bitten many times each day and so feel that I am making a sufficient contribution to their continued presence in my part of the world. I work outdoors amidst a multitude of mosquitoes, black flies, gnats and others that, I’m sure, I am not even aware of. I try to brush them away gently and otherwise wear head netting and sometimes a repellent when I need to be especially focused in my work.

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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by p22 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:02 pm

Lots of stuff is transferred in ballast/bilge water from one continent to the next-

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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by fuki » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:16 pm

Nice :)
I don't get bitten every day (unless maybe in the high summer) so when in the dunes I'm like, have a feat, ladies :D
Turtle Clan wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:20 pm
I’m sure, I am not even aware of.

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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by fuki » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:19 pm

p22 wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:02 pm
Lots of stuff is transferred in ballast/bilge water from one continent to the next-
That's tough English for me, that is like with pumps and tubes right?, there are tubes from one continent to another :shock:
But I'm guessing you mean via ships? :)

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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by p22 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:25 pm

Yes, via vessels/ships-

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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by p22 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:25 pm

😊

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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by p22 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:39 pm

Another nest is under construction .. 😊 .. This time on the house ..



Many a hand has scaled the grand old face of the plateau
Some belong to strangers, and some to folks you know
Holy ghosts and talk show hosts are planted in the sand
To beautify the foothills, and shake the many hands

Nothing on the top but a bucket and a mop
And an illustrated book about birds
You see a lot up there but don't be scared
Who needs action when you got words

When you've finished with the mop, then you can stop
And look at what you've done
The plateau's clean, no dirt to be seen
And the work, it was fun

Nothing on the top but a bucket and a mop
And an illustrated book about birds
You see a lot up there but don't be scared
Who needs action when you got words

Many hands began to scan around for the next plateau
Some say it was Greenland, and some say Mexico
Others decided it was nowhere except for where they stood
But those were all just guesses
Wouldn't help you if they could

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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by fuki » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:47 pm

p22 wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:25 pm
Yes, via vessels/ships-
Thanks, that generates some immediate fantasy play here, lanka combined with a dutch band from Volendam, and a sniff of sri niz. :D

"Sometimes I speak of the Triple Vehicle, sometimes of the One Vehicle, and sometimes of No-vehicle; all these distinctions are meant for the ignorant, for men of inferior wisdom, or even for the noble minded. As to the entering into the ultimate truth (paramārtha), it goes beyond dualism. When one is abiding where there are no images (nirābhāsa), how could the Triple Vehicle be established? All kinds of Dhyāna, Apramāṇa, Ārupya, Samadhi, and the Extinction of Thoughts —they do not exist where there is Mind-itself (cittamātra)" (Lankavatarasutra)


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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by fuki » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:53 pm

p22 wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:39 pm
Another nest is under construction .. 😊 .. This time on the house ..



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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by p22 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:38 am

Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: yet I say unto you, that even Solomon in all his glory .. was not arrayed like one of these .. But if God doth so clothe the grass of the field, which to-day is, and to-morrow is cast into the oven .. shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? Be not therefore anxious ..



No Glory in the West / Orville Peck

They say Paris is dead
Lived through London and drank through Memphis
The things you live by were once just a guess
And there ain't no glory in the west
No there ain't no glory in the west
Hard to think on your feet
Tired of begging them just to compete
Shoot to win can feel so bittersweet
But you take what you can get
'Cause there ain't no glory in the west
Blazin' on ahead, burning through it
Coming down the bend
Nowhere left to go, goin's all we know
Ridin' past the best
And there's still no rest
And there's still no rest
There ain't no glory in the west
What's a boy to do?
Hit the road with a dollar or two
Haunted by what he knows he can't do
Gets it off his chest
'Cause there ain't no glory in the west
Burnin' on ahead, blazing through it
Running blind again
Nowhere left to go, goin's all we know
Ridin' past the best
And there's still no rest
And there's still no rest
And there's still no rest
There ain't no glory in the west
Count your blessings they'll say
And after each midnight begins a new day
But don't place your bets on a word that they say
They'll put your life to rest
'Cause there ain't no glory in the west
No there ain't no glory in the west
There ain't no glory in the west

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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by Autumnday » Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:46 pm

:waving:

There are many great songs, music, and lyrics posted to this thread. They are accompanied by thoughtful and meaningful words.
Thank you all for your memories, teachings, and encouraging all of us to look inward. :hatsoff:





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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by fuki » Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:38 pm

Autumnday wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:46 pm

Thank you all for your memories, teachings, and encouraging all of us to look inward. :hatsoff:
Thanks for the songs and kindness Miss S, the latest one didn't show but listened to another version of it
Speaking of memories...

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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by Nothing » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:10 pm

p22 wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:03 pm

Didn't watch the series until about 2 years ago, but was hooked once started and binge watched until finished- Watched it again during lockdown and picked up on stuff I missed first time around- Would gladly watch it again ..

It's been ages since I had a coke .. 😊

Now I want one ...hahaha
I might watch it during the very hot summer days in July/August when is a hell to be outside. Wow, 92 episodes, it will keep me busy for some time :)
binge watching, never heard, but done that to some degree if understood the idiom well, learned new word, thanks ;)

The classic, those with tastes or the diet one? :D
“Here it is--right now. Start thinking about it and you miss it.”
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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by p22 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:55 am

Nothing wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:10 pm
p22 wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:03 pm

Didn't watch the series until about 2 years ago, but was hooked once started and binge watched until finished- Watched it again during lockdown and picked up on stuff I missed first time around- Would gladly watch it again ..

It's been ages since I had a coke .. 😊

Now I want one ...hahaha
I might watch it during the very hot summer days in July/August when is a hell to be outside. Wow, 92 episodes, it will keep me busy for some time :)
binge watching, never heard, but done that to some degree if understood the idiom well, learned new word, thanks ;)

The classic, those with tastes or the diet one? :D
Classic .. in a glass bottle .. 😊
I think it's bottled in Mexico, the glass is imperfect and has kind of light swirls of rainbow colors ..

Once you get watching, you'll blow through all those episodes
pretty fast!

Maybe 😬

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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by p22 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:00 am

Case 35 Seijõ's Soul Separated

Goso said to his monks, "Seijõ's soul separated from her being. Which was the real Seijõ?"

.

Dead / They Might Be Giants

I returned a bag of groceries
Accidentally taken off the shelf
Before the expiration date
I came back as a bag of groceries
Accidentally taken off the shelf
Before the date stamped on myself

Did a large procession wave their (Did a)
Torches as my head fell in the basket, (large pro-)
And was everybody dancing on the casket? (cession dance?)

Now it's over I'm dead and I haven't done anything that I want (now it's over)
Or, I'm still alive and there's nothing I want to do

I will never say the word
"Procrastinate" again; I'll never
See myself in the mirror with my eyes closed
I didn't apologize for
When I was eight and I made my younger brother
Have to be my personal slave

Did a large procession wave their (Did a)
Torches as my head fell in the basket, (large pro-)
And was everybody dancing on the casket? (cession dance?)

Now it's over I'm dead and I haven't done anything that I want (now it's over)
Or, I'm still alive and there's nothing I want to do

So I won't
(Sit) sit at home
(And) anymore
(And) and you won't
(And) see my head in
(And) the window
(And) and I won't
(And) be around
(And) ever anymore
(And) and I'll be up there on the wall at the store

I returned a bag of groceries
Accidentally taken off the shelf
Before the expiration date
I came back as a bag of groceries
Accidentally taken off the shelf
Before the date stamped on myself

Did a large procession wave their (Did a)
Torches as my head fell in the basket, (large pro-)
And was everybody dancing on the casket? (cession dance?)

Now it's over I'm dead and I haven't done anything that I want (now it's over)
Or, I'm still alive and there's nothing I want to do

Now it's over I'm dead and I haven't done anything that I want (now it's over)
Or, I'm still alive and there's nothing I want to do

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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by p22 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:51 pm

"Blessing things cannot be better than nothing"



Sample and Hold / Neil Young

Sample and Hold
Hair: Blonde
Eyes: Blue
Weight: 110
Disposition: Even
Mood Code: Rotary Adjustable

I need a unit to sample and hold
But not the angry one
A new design, new design.

I need a unit to sample and hold
But not the lonely one
A new design, new design.

I need a unit to sample and hold
But not the lonely one
A new design, new design.

Sample and hold.

We'll send it out right away
Satisfaction guaranteed.
Please specify
The color of skin and eye
We know you'll be happy.

Don't hesitate to give us a call
We know you'll be satisfied
When you energize
And see your unit come alive
We know you'll be happy.

I need a unit to sample and hold
But not the lonely one, the lonely one, the lonely one
Sample and hold.
Weight: 110.

Perfection in every details
Fabricated from the curl of the hair
To the tip of the nail
Because our units never fail
We know you'll be happy.

I need a unit to sample and hold.

Don't hesitate to give us a call
We know you'll be satisfied
When you energize
And see your unit come alive
We know you'll be happy.

I need a unit to sample and hold.

We know you'll be happy 110
We know you'll be happy
We know you'll be happy.

But not the lonely one
A new design, new design
Perfection in every detail, new design
Sample and hold.

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Re: All sounds have the same nature....

Post by Nothing » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:13 pm

p22 wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:55 am
Nothing wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:10 pm
p22 wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:03 pm

Didn't watch the series until about 2 years ago, but was hooked once started and binge watched until finished- Watched it again during lockdown and picked up on stuff I missed first time around- Would gladly watch it again ..

It's been ages since I had a coke .. 😊

Now I want one ...hahaha
I might watch it during the very hot summer days in July/August when is a hell to be outside. Wow, 92 episodes, it will keep me busy for some time :)
binge watching, never heard, but done that to some degree if understood the idiom well, learned new word, thanks ;)

The classic, those with tastes or the diet one? :D
Classic .. in a glass bottle .. 😊
I think it's bottled in Mexico, the glass is imperfect and has kind of light swirls of rainbow colors ..

Once you get watching, you'll blow through all those episodes
pretty fast!

Maybe 😬
Here is bottled locally, in the city where I live :)

I will check it this weekend and get back to you for impressions 😊
“Here it is--right now. Start thinking about it and you miss it.”
― Huang Po

https://beingwithoutself.org/retreats/

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