how this description is true? Could you elaborate?

No self-definition or description is true, all you can do (need to!)is abandon the false, then you'll see there's no need for true ideas.
Since there is no Buddha, we bow to the Buddha.
Joe, thank you.desert_woodworker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:45 pmMarcel,
Hakuin Zenji, in his Song of Zazen, sings, within the gatha,
"Apart from water, there is no Ice;
Apart from Beings, (there is) no Buddha".
I'd rephrase with confidence and say that Buddha is no other than sentient beings. But Ashvaghosha is even a little more specific! See below:
Ashvaghosha sings in his Awakening to Faith In the Mahayana,
"The Tathagatha is the mind of the sentient-being".
Although no-mind is the true mind (not the deluded mind, or the mind of delusion), no-mind does not mean no sentient-beings. It means that sentient-beings are the only and true mind, the Tathagatha.
Others may happen to feel they disagree!, but maybe some day, at some point in practice, "they" won't.![]()
--Joe
Fuki, Thank You most profoundly. I hope I understand. Though I was with you, I hope you won't charge me room-and-board.fuki wrote: ps thanks for our talk the other day, regarding family, "you" were "with" me on christmas eve uptil this morning,
"moving" in accordance with causes and conditions (the family)
(can't put it into words, but you understand)
Oh wow, how nice Joe, I love (your) presents, thank you.desert_woodworker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:06 pmFuki, Thank You most profoundly. I hope I understand. Though I was with you, I hope you won't charge me room-and-board.![]()
Oh, and dang: It's now already past Christmas, and I haven't finished my Christmas card list, and I still have cards to send. Marcel?, pls. check your snail-mail in a few weeks.![]()
--Joe
When one is attentive and alert, non-judgmental and unprejudiced, welcoming and grateful, in one’s thoughts, words and deeds ... one may say “I am zazen”.
Buddha is unconditional love.fuki wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:04 pmSince there is no Buddha, we bow to the Buddha.
People who say there is a Buddha here or there in the past or the future
only split up the Buddha in a thousand parts, how is that paying respect?
Paying respect is the end of prejudice, the end of split-mind.
No-mind, no Buddha.
Bows to You friend, may you be happy.
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thanks michaeljc,
Sorry, saying "I am zazen" to me indicates our bonpu habits/activity, while when correctly practising zazen this tendency is "liberated" or at least doesn't arise for the time being.[james] wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:30 amWhen one is attentive and alert, non-judgmental and unprejudiced, welcoming and grateful, in one’s thoughts, words and deeds ... one may say “I am zazen”.
It is nothing to do with attainment, realization or recognition. This takes care of itself.
Zazen is only zazen, there is nothing lacking.
Of course, saying is not being. Talk is cheap.