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Koans that you have made

Post by Mason » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:01 pm

Alice followed the white rabbit and emerged in the dark hole. What colours did she see there?
"The Way needs no cultivation, just do not defile. What is defilement? When with a mind of birth and death one acts in a contrived way, then everything is a defilement. If one wants to know the Way directly: Ordinary Mind is the Way!"

- Record of Ma-tsu

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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by fuki » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:02 pm

I've unmade a few in the days, but here's a koan of Sir Joe posted on ZFI (it's in Dutch as I translated or transliterated-edited it and shared among family/friends, didn't save the original English version, so "Vuijst" is not me or not-me, just expedient means)

Het publiekelijk geval van Vuijstslag’s plakkende schoen – Koan

THE CASE


De Vuijst bij thuiskomst na zijn serene wandeling tussen de duin-sparren, vond een klevend klompje van steen en aarde tussen de naden van één van zijn schoenzolen.

“Verdomde kauwgom-eters!” , zei de Vuijst, “laat je troep niet achter in de Natuur!”, “Ze zouden verbannen moeten worden!”, niet gesproken in stilte van geest.

Hij liet zijn schoen achter op het balkon en ging naar de keuken voor een schaar. Terug op het balkon met de schaar, vervolgde de Vuijst met de handeling tussen de zool te pikken met de schaar om de rommel van aarde en klevende drab van de zool te verwijderen. Tijdens het manoeuvreren werd er een geur bevrijd. De Vuijst herkende de geur van hars!

Allang, het was de drab onder de schoen van een Dennenboom in de duinen geweest, druppende sap van een tak die half afgebroken was. De Vuijst had de laaghangende tak zelf verder afgebroken omdat hij op hoofd hoogte hing en dacht andere wandelaars te behoeden voor een eventuele botsing.

“Sorry!, kauwgom-eters”, dacht de Vuijst, en voelde een grote opluchting, alsof de Natuur hem dit zuchtje van parfum had geschonken om De Vuijst zijn dag te verhemelen.
Woede verdween als de Nacht bij Ochtengloren, en de Vuijst bevond zichzelf dankbaar tot de Natuur, en berouwvol tot de Mensheid.

COMMENTARY

Waarom zou de Vuijst de Natuur het groene licht geven, met een “Dank U”, maar zou hij kauwgom-eters willen verbannen?
Zijn Natuur en Mensheid niet van dezelfde Geest? Woede verschijnt wanneer we irrationeel verwachten dat mensen zich op een bepaalde manier gedragen. Gut! ,
hoe geven we Natuur het voordeel van de twijfel, maar niet de Mensen!

DE DICHTREGEL

Verkeerde ideeën, het vergif van hebberigheid, haat, en ignorantie, de ontwetende waan van een bescherming van een “Zelf”;
.... het perfecte medicijn! –
een toegangskaartje tot de Hel.

De geur van Dennen-sap: Bevrijding!,
En alle wezens alsmede spontaan bevrijd.

Perhaps Joe has saved the original English?
meldpunt seksueel misbruik in boeddhistische gemeenschappen.
https://meldpuntbg.nl/

IZIhttp://www.zeninstitute.org/en/iziae/main.html

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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by Mason » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:53 am

Is it a rope or a snake?
It is light, but hard to bear.
Awe, power, foxes and jackals.
"The Way needs no cultivation, just do not defile. What is defilement? When with a mind of birth and death one acts in a contrived way, then everything is a defilement. If one wants to know the Way directly: Ordinary Mind is the Way!"

- Record of Ma-tsu

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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by Mason » Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:34 pm

I asked Chow Chow a question.

But I just can't wait for the answer!!

ROFL

"Joe drives the power wagon"

Where now, dear Sir?
"The Way needs no cultivation, just do not defile. What is defilement? When with a mind of birth and death one acts in a contrived way, then everything is a defilement. If one wants to know the Way directly: Ordinary Mind is the Way!"

- Record of Ma-tsu

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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by Mason » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:37 pm

Thus have I heard.

The master said, "In the end, I can't go along with you."

:111:

I see the rhinocerous. Do you see the jackal?
Nonetheless, I still miss you.
"The Way needs no cultivation, just do not defile. What is defilement? When with a mind of birth and death one acts in a contrived way, then everything is a defilement. If one wants to know the Way directly: Ordinary Mind is the Way!"

- Record of Ma-tsu

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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by loves' the unjust » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:39 pm

Mason wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:01 pm
Alice followed the white rabbit and emerged in the dark hole. What colours did she see there?
black?
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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by desert_woodworker » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:50 pm

mason wrote: What colours did she see there?
On Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon", they say, in a title of a track, "Any Colour You Like" (record released: March 1, 1973). ;) --Joe

(ah, but they're a third-party, and I shouldn't bring them in on a koan; so, I will say, for myself, "Any color you like")


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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by Mason » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:05 pm

Just as you are,
Here. Right now,
In this unending moment -
My favourite colour is Yours.

Beyond the extraordinary,
The ordinary waves his hand.
To the end (and the beginning)
Of the age - It is you,
Joe, that I worship

- Peace
"The Way needs no cultivation, just do not defile. What is defilement? When with a mind of birth and death one acts in a contrived way, then everything is a defilement. If one wants to know the Way directly: Ordinary Mind is the Way!"

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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by Mason » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:19 pm

Let's keep driving the power wagon! :112:
"The Way needs no cultivation, just do not defile. What is defilement? When with a mind of birth and death one acts in a contrived way, then everything is a defilement. If one wants to know the Way directly: Ordinary Mind is the Way!"

- Record of Ma-tsu

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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by loves' the unjust » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:20 pm

Friendship is for today!
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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by loves' the unjust » Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:25 pm

We all depend (connect) on each other and even if you wish to depart or withdraw, we can't.
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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by Mason » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:32 pm

Why would you say something like that?
"The Way needs no cultivation, just do not defile. What is defilement? When with a mind of birth and death one acts in a contrived way, then everything is a defilement. If one wants to know the Way directly: Ordinary Mind is the Way!"

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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by loves' the unjust » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:32 pm

having fun.
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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by desert_woodworker » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:58 am

Mace,
Mason wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:05 pm
Beyond the extraordinary,
The ordinary waves his hand.
To the end (and the beginning)
Of the age - It is you, ...
Nay, nay. Granted, we respect each other.

Strong practice!,

--Joe

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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by loves' the unjust » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:02 pm

Life is composed of peace and fun!
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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by desert_woodworker » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:48 pm

Enver M. wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:02 pm
Life is composed of peace and fun!
A good work of Art
is a harmonious composition
of Content and Intent.

--Joe

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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by Mason » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:05 am

Enver M. wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:32 pm
having fun.
Love you, Enver!! :111:
"The Way needs no cultivation, just do not defile. What is defilement? When with a mind of birth and death one acts in a contrived way, then everything is a defilement. If one wants to know the Way directly: Ordinary Mind is the Way!"

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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by loves' the unjust » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:58 am

:hatsoff:
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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by The manta ray » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:05 pm

Say something without uttering a word, say nothing through spoken word. Quick make haste, or be on your way, you lonely fool.

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Re: Koans that you have made

Post by [james] » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:05 am

fuki wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:02 pm
... so "Vuijst" is not me or not-me, just expedient means)
Expedient means self, manifesting
“Vuijst” a momentary arrangement
Within a momentary arrangement

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