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Re: Zen

Post by fuki » Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:11 am

Autumnday wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:39 am
waving:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AMMb9CiScI
Leonard Cohen
What Happens to the Heart

:115:
Such a beautiful song and stunning video about Leonard's life/path, thanks for sharing and so great to see you here Autumn!
:115:
Here's a favorite poem you reminded me of;

Experience Chan! It's not mysterious.
As I see it, it boils down to cause and effect.
Outside the mind there is no Dharma
So how can anybody speak of a heaven beyond?

Experience Chan! It's not a field of learning.
Learning adds things that can be researched and discussed.
The feel of impressions can't be communicated.
Enlightenment is the only medium of transmission.

Experience Chan! It's not a lot of questions.
Too many questions is the Chan disease.
The best way is just to observe the noise of the world.
The answer to your questions?
Ask your own heart.

Experience Chan! It's not the teachings of disciples.
Such speakers are guests from outside the gate.
The Chan which you are hankering to speak about
Only talks about turtles turning into fish.

Experience Chan! It can't be described.
When you describe it you miss the point.
When you discover that your proofs are without substance
You'll realize that words are nothing but dust.

Experience Chan! It's experiencing your own nature!
Going with the flow everywhere and always.
When you don't fake it and waste time trying to rub and polish it,
Your Original Self will always shine through brighter than bright.

Experience Chan! It's like harvesting treasures.
But donate them to others.
You won't need them.
Suddenly everything will appear before you,
Altogether complete and altogether done.

Experience Chan! Become a follower who when accepted
Learns how to give up his life and his death.
Grasping this carefully he comes to see clearly.
And then he laughs till he topples the Cold Mountain ascetics.

Experience Chan! It'll require great skepticism;
But great skepticism blocks those detours on the road.
Jump off the lofty peaks of mystery.
Turn your heaven and earth inside out.

Experience Chan! Ignore that superstitious nonsense
That makes some claim that they've attained Chan.
Foolish beliefs are those of the not-yet-awakened.
And they're the ones who most need the experience of Chan!

Experience Chan! There's neither distance nor intimacy.
Observation is like a family treasure.
Whether with eyes, ears, body, nose, or tongue -
It's hard to say which is the most amazing to use.

Experience Chan! There's no class distinction.
The one who bows and the one who is bowed to are a Buddha unit.
The yoke and its lash are tied to each other.
Isn't this our first principle... the one we should most observe?

-   Master Xu Yun

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Re: Zen

Post by Nothing » Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:32 am

Larry wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:52 am
“Nothing is wasted” - Ruth Ozeki (Soto Zen Priest)

“There is nothing lost or wasted in this life” - Bhagavad Gita

“Nothing is ever wasted” - Some dude on the internet 🙂
Have you read anything from Ruth Ozeki? My sister is reading one novel from her "A Tale for the Time Being" :)
“Here it is--right now. Start thinking about it and you miss it.”
― Huang Po

https://beingwithoutself.org/retreats/

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Re: Zen

Post by Nothing » Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:03 am

Larry wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:44 am
Nothing wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:32 am
Larry wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:52 am
“Nothing is wasted” - Ruth Ozeki (Soto Zen Priest)

“There is nothing lost or wasted in this life” - Bhagavad Gita

“Nothing is ever wasted” - Some dude on the internet 🙂
Have you read anything from Ruth Ozeki? My sister is reading one novel from her "A Tale for the Time Being" :)
Interesting that you ask. My daughter highly recommended “A Tale for the Time Being” about five years ago but I gave up half way. Too many slightly troubling synchronicities 🙂 Maybe I should try again....
Synchronicity :D

I have read good reviews about her novels, not just this one.
If my sister recommends it, after she is done, will borrow it and read it and see for those troubling syncs :D Have not read any novel for years btw.
“Here it is--right now. Start thinking about it and you miss it.”
― Huang Po

https://beingwithoutself.org/retreats/

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Re: Zen

Post by el gatito » Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:51 am

The time of posting of the last two posts and their order: look, look.

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Re: Zen

Post by el gatito » Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:52 am

Larry wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:44 am
Nothing wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:32 am
Larry wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:52 am
“Nothing is wasted” - Ruth Ozeki (Soto Zen Priest)

“There is nothing lost or wasted in this life” - Bhagavad Gita

“Nothing is ever wasted” - Some dude on the internet 🙂
Have you read anything from Ruth Ozeki? My sister is reading one novel from her "A Tale for the Time Being" :)
Interesting that you ask. My daughter highly recommended “A Tale for the Time Being” about five years ago but I gave up half way. Too many slightly troubling synchronicities 🙂 Maybe I should try again....
Yes! Time loop!..

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Re: Zen

Post by el gatito » Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:53 am

Larry wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:44 am
Nothing wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:32 am
Larry wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:52 am
“Nothing is wasted” - Ruth Ozeki (Soto Zen Priest)

“There is nothing lost or wasted in this life” - Bhagavad Gita

“Nothing is ever wasted” - Some dude on the internet 🙂
Have you read anything from Ruth Ozeki? My sister is reading one novel from her "A Tale for the Time Being" :)
Interesting that you ask. My daughter highly recommended “A Tale for the Time Being” about five years ago but I gave up half way. Too many slightly troubling synchronicities 🙂 Maybe I should try again....
Hey, why do I respond to this post but cannot be placed after it?.. Time! Time!

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Re: Zen

Post by Larry » Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:44 am

Nothing wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:32 am
Larry wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:52 am
“Nothing is wasted” - Ruth Ozeki (Soto Zen Priest)

“There is nothing lost or wasted in this life” - Bhagavad Gita

“Nothing is ever wasted” - Some dude on the internet 🙂
Have you read anything from Ruth Ozeki? My sister is reading one novel from her "A Tale for the Time Being" :)
Interesting that you ask. My daughter highly recommended “A Tale for the Time Being” about five years ago but I gave up half way. Too many slightly troubling synchronicities 🙂 Maybe I should try again....

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Re: Zen

Post by Larry » Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:07 pm

el gatito wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:52 am
Larry wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:44 am
Maybe I should try again....
Yes! Time loop!..
:lol:

Talk about a tale for the time being :lol:

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Re: Zen

Post by Nothing » Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:20 pm

Larry wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:07 pm
el gatito wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:52 am
Larry wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:44 am
Maybe I should try again....
Yes! Time loop!..
:lol:

Talk about a tale for the time being :lol:
Apologies for messing up the time with the mention of the time being :P .
There is no place for time and space on zen space :)
“Here it is--right now. Start thinking about it and you miss it.”
― Huang Po

https://beingwithoutself.org/retreats/

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Re: Zen

Post by Larry » Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:19 pm

Nothing wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:20 pm
Apologies for messing up the time with the mention of the time being :P
:lol:

I don’t know what Mrs Ozeki puts in her tea but it sure plays havoc with the oven :lol:

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Re: Zen

Post by Nothing » Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:18 pm

Larry wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:19 pm
Nothing wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:20 pm
Apologies for messing up the time with the mention of the time being :P
:lol:

I don’t know what Mrs Ozeki puts in her tea but it sure plays havoc with the oven :lol:
:D
we can ask her what is going on in Ozekiland https://www.ruthozeki.com/about/long-bio :)
“Here it is--right now. Start thinking about it and you miss it.”
― Huang Po

https://beingwithoutself.org/retreats/

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Re: Zen

Post by Larry » Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:09 am

Nothing wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:18 pm
we can ask her what is going on in Ozekiland https://www.ruthozeki.com/about/long-bio :)
:D

Love it. Sounds like one of Fuki’s creations. Ozekiland. Just down the road from Zen World :D

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Re: Zen

Post by Nothing » Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:10 pm

Larry wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:09 am
Nothing wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:18 pm
we can ask her what is going on in Ozekiland https://www.ruthozeki.com/about/long-bio :)
:D

Love it. Sounds like one of Fuki’s creations. Ozekiland. Just down the road from Zen World :D
Who knows, maybe Fuki put something in the oven :D
“Here it is--right now. Start thinking about it and you miss it.”
― Huang Po

https://beingwithoutself.org/retreats/

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Re: Zen

Post by Larry » Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:23 pm

Nothing wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:10 pm
Who knows, maybe Fuki put something in the oven :D
:lol:

Well that’s certainly not mentioned in the biography :lol:

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Re: Zen

Post by Nothing » Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:23 pm

Larry wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:23 pm
Nothing wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:10 pm
Who knows, maybe Fuki put something in the oven :D
:lol:

Well that’s certainly not mentioned in the biography :lol:
:mrgreen:
Have not read the hagiography yet :D
“Here it is--right now. Start thinking about it and you miss it.”
― Huang Po

https://beingwithoutself.org/retreats/

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