This profound acceptance excludes nothing. That maybe stiff medicine for some. IMO, morality is man-made and changes with the seasons and has created it's own violence. I have no interest in examining.... "ain't it awful, we've come to this..." Granted, we need a few laws for society's sake. For me, it's distraction... and it reduces people down to consumers who are worried about their new cellphone or what will s/he think of me, yada, yada... all those things we are told are wrong about us. If I may, I am done with this simple minded approach and distraction. It could be shoveled out to beginners for about a day, maybe two until we settle into the heart mind. So much time is wasted repeating over and over these petty distractions.Dan74 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:13 pmWhere we come from, for at least a part of the population (myself included), this usually does the trick.el gatito wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:45 amFor me, the meaning of: " 'the meaning of life is feeling good' " would be like this:
ref. https://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.p ... 33#p423722Meido-Sensei wrote:... a moment when one arrives at a deep, visceral faith: a profound acceptance that, well, everything is actually ok ...
This above quote I read as "feeling good". So, generally, yes, 'the meaning of life is feeling good'.
It has various degrees or "levels", though. This 'feeling good' -- as an "ultimate goal" (sort of).
For many others, it's ever more or power or sex or whatever.
This 'profound acceptance' is of course something else, but somewhere along the line, maybe the concern for our fellow beings, the vows, have to enter the equation, no?
On a good day, we can love everyone for exactly who they are.... vodka and $$ included. It may bring pain, hearts can open. It's not up to us. There are moments when I trust this completely. As people on the way, the precepts guide and inform what an awakened life can look like. I was never taught that they are commandments and I will be punished for my sins. Seems like the precepts are like parents who kindly let us see where we trip.
I will also add, for me, I have avoided this forum for this kind of thinking... and the idea that stresses talk about deep practice, who can say what that is? ... kick over the water bucket, bow... anything. There is no end of sorting. Practice means nothing to me until it walks on the ground. The insinuations ring loud and clear. I have kind feelings for all of you, we're not strangers but there is no purpose for me being here. There is literally nothing to respond to. For me, this is not a response to anything, just shooting ideas, no arrows who meet.
thank you for listening,